Fringe FBI Podcast Season 4 Episode 4

Frea, Jan, Lou, & Maximus get together after each Fringe episode in this temporarily constructed shared reality known as a podcast to discuss the Fourth Season of Fringe.

‘Subject 9’

Agenda:

1) Intros

2) Episode Easter Eggs  
3) Quick Thoughts 
4) RoundTable 
5) Ep Rating – out of 10 Genes
 

Intro Music: ‘Break On Through (to the other side)’ – The Doors
Exit Music: ‘The Lonely Man Theme’ – Joe Harnell – Closing Credits for The Incredible Hulk TV series
Leave us feedback here or on Twitter:
Frea – @Frea_O
Jan – @happydayz3
Lou – @olddarth
Maximus – @mxpw999
Jan’s Subject 9Recap can be found at NiceGirlsTV

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Media mentioned if you are interested in speculating on what the Observers are all about:
1) Original Star Trek – Season 3 – The Empath
2) Childhood’s End by Arthur C. Clarke
3) The Dark Tower Series – The WasteLands – by Stephen King

Fringe FBI Podcast Season 4 Episode 3

Frea, Jan, Lou, & Maximus get together after each Fringe episode in this temporarily constructed shared reality known as a podcast to discuss the Fourth Season of Fringe.

‘Alone In The World’

Agenda:

1) Intros

2) Episode Easter Eggs  
3) Quick Thoughts 
4) RoundTable 
5) Ep Rating – out of 10 Genes
 

Intro Music: ‘Breakdown’ – I, Robot: The Alan Parsons Project
Exit Music: ‘Olivia Theme’ – Chris Tilton
Leave us feedback here or on Twitter:
Frea – @Frea_O
Jan – @happydayz3
Lou – @olddarth
Maximus – @mxpw999
Jan’s Fringe Recap can be found at NiceGirlsTV

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Fringe Season 4 Episode 3 Review

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‘Alone In The World’


The show continues it’s exploration of what a world without Peter is like and its impact on those he left behind.  Till this episode that journey has been an interesting one with the success of the journey relying heavily on how interesting the case of the week is. In my books translucent shape shifters and serial killers trump killer fungus any day.
‘Gus’ was too flat a threat to get very excited about.
Pity too because John Noble acted the heck out of the episode. So did Anna Torv – when she could break away from the case of the week imposition.  Special marks for Jesika Nicole too.

Oddly enough on our last FBI – Fringe Benefits Inc podcast, (which you can find under the Podcast tab here at FringeTV), we remarked it was curious that Peter was only trying to contact Walter and not Olivia. The previous two episodes had a definite lack of Walter and we hoped for more of him. Both of these items were addressed in this episode.  

2 for 1 His ‘N Hers Suit Sale?

One quite successfully.  The other not so.

 

John Noble was amazing, as always, in every scene he had.  From the interview with Dr. Sumner, his apparent breakdown in front of Broyles, his scenes with Aaron, and the coups de grâce; his final anguished moments driven to deliver a self administered prefrontal lobotomy.  So tortured is Walter and so afraid of being sent back to St. Claire’s Mental Hospital, he undertakes this radical procedure in hopes of ridding himself of his ‘hallucinations’ rather than return to being institutionalized.
That final scene as Walter and Olivia shared their secrets was wonderfully played by both Noble and Torv.  Between that and Noble’s performance through out the episode, ‘Alone In The World,’ is a worthy viewing experience.
Where the episode fell flat was pretty well anything to do with the case of the week plus Olivia and Lincoln.  No doubt the intent was to show through their dress code and glass ware choices how alike Olivia and Lincoln are but in doing so the episode diminished Olivia throughout. During the case Lincoln was making the observations and insights that Olivia always did before.  Hopefully, this is a short term issue that goes away once Peter returns.  Lincoln should be paired up with Astrid and Olivia with Peter to allow the best mix of differing character types.
What really bothered me this episode was the conceit that Olivia seemed oblivious to Walter’s deteriorating mental state even though it has been going on for several weeks.  It could have flown better if the scene between Olivia and Lincoln in FBI headquarters never happened.  Are we really to believe Olivia calls Lincoln in to provide support for a phantom feeling while a very real issue with Walter, that everyone else is privy too, has slipped under her radar?  
While this Olivia may be more tightly wound up, the conceit that she would keep her Peter dreams to herself while remaining oblivious to Walter’s deteriorating condition runs counter to her observational abilities as an agent and her sensibilities of helping others.

Episode ‘Patterns’: Add your own in the comments.

  • two bullies meet an unexpected end in typically weird Fringe style – ‘Gus’ strikes back
  • William Sadler makes an innocuous return from Season 1’s ‘The Equation’, as Doctor Sumner, who has grave concerns about Walter being released from the St. Clair’s Mental Institution
  • Peter in the clipboard
  • Olivia can draw
  • Olivia & Lincoln seem to shop at the same His & Hers store – dueling glasses too
  • Astrid runs interference for Walter with Broyles
  • ‘Doctors scare me.’ ‘You’ll like Walter.’ uh maybe not.
  • candle snuffing & lambda sensor
  • exploding skeletons & spores
  • Olivia calls for flamethrowers
  • Aaron & Walter bond – home can be a lonely place
  • Walter’s a busy man but has time for tin hats and strawberry milkshakes
  • find out Peter we know drowned at Reiden Lake after crossing into our universe with Walter
  • after hearing Walter’s two Peters death stories, Aaron questions Walter’s sanity
  • Aaron & fungus – ‘Gus’ – are psychically linked
  • Walter desperate to save Aaron proposes a lobotomy
  • Lincoln is a little freaked out
  • ‘Peter visions’ force Walter to try doing a lobotomy on himself
  • Olivia reveals she has been seeing a man in her dreams
  • her sketch matches the man Walter is seeing – ‘I’m perfectly sane!’
Flamethrowers, of course!

Of course, the reason for Olivia’s delay in comprehension was to save that moment for the last scene but it should have been constructed in a manner that did not diminish Olivia.

Now that Walter’s and Olivia’s shared experiences are revealed, the return of Peter cannot be that far away.  Given the dynamics of these different, yet so familiar, characters the arrival of a Peter from an alternate timeline will be an interesting one for sure.

If you have a green thumb this episode may have played better for you. Sadly, neither of my opposing digits are of that color.

7 out of 10 Genes

FBI Podcast Season 4 Episode 2

Frea, Jan, Lou, & Maximus get together after each Fringe episode in this temporarily constructed shared reality known as a podcast to discuss the Fourth Season of Fringe.

‘One Night In October’

Agenda:

1) Intros

2) Episode Easter Eggs 
3) Quick Thoughts 
4) RoundTable 
5) Ep Rating – out of 10 Genes
 

Intro Music: ‘The Ghost In You’ – Psychedelic Furs
Exit Music: ‘Peter Theme’ – Chris Tilton
Leave us feedback here or on Twitter:
Frea – @Frea_O
Jan – @happydayz3
Lou – @olddarth
Maximus – @mxpw999
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Fringe Season 4 Episode 2: Review

Out of the Darkness Into The Light
  
‘One Night In October’
  

The big question going into Season 4 was how the Fringe writers were going to utilize the new timeline for story telling possibilities.  The first episode of the season gave a universe load of exposition.  This time the episode cuts to the chase right from the get go.  A serial killer is on the rampage on the Other side and Our side is asked to help out by bringing his counter part over to work on the case.  A counterpart whom just happens to be an expert on serial killers.  
All set up within minutes of the episode start.
The story can take off so quickly because this new timeline has been used to strip back a lot of the continuity baggage both Olivias are carrying.  They have been reduced back to their basic qualities; both Olivias void of any impacts that Peter has made on them.  A concentrated distillation of their characteristics has been attained in Season 4.  This leanness of character is a deliberate decision by the Fringe show runners.  It allows them to highlight the similarities between the two Olivias.  And the differences.  It also streamlines story telling setup.

So close yet so different.

None of this story telling economy would have been possible if the previous timeline had been in play. The impact that Peter had on both of them plus their unique love triangle and baby Henry were wonderful paths of growth for the two Olivias within the story arch of the past season.  But here they would have been encumberances and required a lot of valuable story telling time to wade through before even setting up the episode.  All that plus Peter in the mix would be another buffer between the two Olivias – of course removing Peter from this episode could have easily be done without the need for his Existence Erasure.
The net result?  A taut, tightly drawn episode that moves with a brisk pace.  Of course we do want those layers of history taken back out of storage and returned to the Olivias.  Especially our Olivia. But until then the Fringe writing staff look well prepared to use these lightened characters to re-examine them before those Peter influenced moments changed them forever.
Episode ‘Patterns’: Add your own in the comments.
  • patented creepy opening Fringe scene with neon blue tubing, skull plug with electrodes, and male victim with the cold breath
  • Walter rants to Lee about shapeshifters and the other side while putting cloths over any reflective surface
  • Olivia was kidnapped for two weeks & not enough drugs in the world for Walter to forget that
  • ‘She bought my ignorance with baked goods.  It was that damn Portuguese sweet bread!’
  • in the new timeline everyone remembers Walternate starting The Machine in an attempt to destroy our world but instead the Bridge was created
  • ‘Kennedy, help me!’ ‘It’s Lincoln!’ ‘Quickly!’
  • Olivia arrrives with coffee – anyone think Peter is going to get a chance to redeem his coffee order gaffe from last season?
  • Astrid the Match Maker: ‘Do you ever think maybe your type doesn’t exist?’
  • Olivia & Fauxlivia share scenes & Anna Torv nails it
  • Serial Killer on one side vs Professor of Forensic Psychology on the other
  • ‘I lived in your apartment.  I picked up a lot of things about you.’
  • John Ferguson does outstanding outwork in a guest star role
  • Charlie is with the Bug Girl.  On their honeymoon!
  • well done scene of misdirection with kidnapping of girl’s mother at the gas station
  • Walter gets horizontal in a chair to re-enact the Maxell ads of the 80s
  • John not knowing he is scoping ‘himself’ out as he examines the contents of the house
  • Anna plays Fauxlivia playing Olivia
  • highlight of the episode – John & Olivia share their memories of abusive fathers
  • John understands the other John but he had Marjorie to help step him out of the darkness into the light
  • ‘Small moments of peace.’
  • ‘What my father did with cruelty, she did with love.’
  • There is no other road for the serial killer John
  • Alt Broyles is alive!  New timeline has pluses and minuses.
  • Olivia owns Fauxlivia with her photographic memory recalling the tractor licence plates.
  • John confronts himself
  • ‘The night my father found the dead things.’  Jack Ketchum short story anyone?
  • ‘What happened to him?’  ‘My stepfather?  …I killed him.’
  • Serial killer John steals Marjorie from John but not the mark she left on John
  • Peter pleads Walter for help
John Ferguson made a great guest star turn.  My favorite moment from the episode is the scene where John McClennan is discussing Marjorie with Olivia. His explanation of his realization of what Marjorie had done for him strikes me as foreshadowing for further down in the season when Olivia begins to comprehend and/or regain her knowledge of what Peter did for her.

‘Her name was Marjorie.’

I was completely engaged emotionally for this guest star turn; further evidence of John Ferguson’s excellent performance. I imagine quite easily being a puddle when the great cast from Fringe ie Olivia, Walter, et al have their moments of realization about Peter.
If we get episodes like this one in Peter’s absence from the Fringe gurus, then keep bringing them on. By the look of next week’s episode the Fringe show runners sure seem to be taking full advantage of this new timeline.
And Olivia owning Fauxlivia over the tractor licence plate? Can I have a Hell Yeah!

9 out of 10 Genes.